Comments on: Arduino, the Basic Stamp killer http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/ Random experiments, circuits, code, rapid prototyping, sometimes things to buy, and the odd tune by Tod E. Kurt. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:13:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ToddFun.com » Blog Archive » Links for Beginners in Electronics http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-58980 ToddFun.com » Blog Archive » Links for Beginners in Electronics Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:09:36 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-58980 [...] Compare Arduino to Basic Stamp at (todbot.com) [...] [...] Compare Arduino to Basic Stamp at (todbot.com) [...]

]]> By: Sebas http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-55212 Sebas Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:04:24 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-55212 Hi...check out this project. Programming arduino has never been so easy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_IYlDbBlEs And Lego nxt also! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA1DMef4cwI Have fun! Hi…check out this project. Programming arduino has never been so easy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_IYlDbBlEs

And Lego nxt also!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA1DMef4cwI

Have fun!

]]> By: Charles http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-53751 Charles Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:21:39 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-53751 Hey all, I've been working with PIC18 microcontrollers, and I was wondering what all the hub-bub was about over the ardunio... the answer is the in-circuit debugger. You can buy individual PIC chips ($5)and use a JDM programmer ($15) and then the IDE and c compiler are free. The only downside is their in-circuit debuggers are closed source and cost a hell of alot. On the upside, there is a pic simulator in the IDE which works very well, but it is just a virtualized chip. all in all, I still love the PIC18 chips ; ) Hey all,

I’ve been working with PIC18 microcontrollers, and I was wondering what all the hub-bub was about over the ardunio… the answer is the in-circuit debugger.

You can buy individual PIC chips ($5)and use a JDM programmer ($15) and then the IDE and c compiler are free. The only downside is their in-circuit debuggers are closed source and cost a hell of alot.

On the upside, there is a pic simulator in the IDE which works very well, but it is just a virtualized chip.

all in all, I still love the PIC18 chips ; )

]]> By: Mac http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-52651 Mac Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:34:52 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-52651 "C/C++ is a very difficult language to learn, especially for us who learn 68K or x86 ASM back in the day over 15-20 years ago." So, you learned ASM and think C/C++ is difficult? Interesting. But, as noted, if you know one language and it does what you want, don't bother with others. “C/C++ is a very difficult language to learn, especially for us who learn 68K or x86 ASM back in the day over 15-20 years ago.”

So, you learned ASM and think C/C++ is difficult? Interesting.

But, as noted, if you know one language and it does what you want, don’t bother with others.

]]> By: todbot http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-52307 todbot Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:35:35 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-52307 Outlander, I totally agree. I was a Basic Stamp user for about a decade. If yo are comfortable with BASIC and you can solve your problems with a Basic Stamp, you shouldn't stop using it. It's a great tool. Parallax has a lot of great documentation on how to use it. I became frustrated with the Basic Stamp when I wanted to go beyond that. There was no way to get "under the hood" with the Basic Stamp: it was all closed up and proprietary. The nice thing about Arduino's "version" of C is that it hides most of the nuttiness of C and is pretty much equivalent to the BS2 language for Basic Stamp-like tasks (as seen in the code comparison above). But Arduino also lets you get down into the internals of the chip to change how it works, extend the language with various libraries to deal with various types of input and output devices, and is totally open so you can learn for yourself how it works. Outlander, I totally agree. I was a Basic Stamp user for about a decade. If yo are comfortable with BASIC and you can solve your problems with a Basic Stamp, you shouldn’t stop using it. It’s a great tool. Parallax has a lot of great documentation on how to use it.

I became frustrated with the Basic Stamp when I wanted to go beyond that. There was no way to get “under the hood” with the Basic Stamp: it was all closed up and proprietary.

The nice thing about Arduino’s “version” of C is that it hides most of the nuttiness of C and is pretty much equivalent to the BS2 language for Basic Stamp-like tasks (as seen in the code comparison above). But Arduino also lets you get down into the internals of the chip to change how it works, extend the language with various libraries to deal with various types of input and output devices, and is totally open so you can learn for yourself how it works.

]]> By: Outlander http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-52304 Outlander Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:52:02 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-52304 You are missing the entire point of the "BASIC" Stamp. And that is the "BASIC" part of it. C/C++ is a very difficult language to learn, especially for us who learn 68K or x86 ASM back in the day over 15-20 years ago. C/C++ is an object oriented language and is extremely difficult while BASIC is simple and for some reason seems to go hand in hand with people that learned line-by-line ASM first and can't learn C/C++. If you want a line-by-line approach that is easy to read, easy to understand, and easy to decode, than go with the BASIC Stamp. If however you like heart ache, long hours figuring out what each (,:,.,{ means, and a lack of official support than go with an Arduino For me, if I can't use a GOTO, or a JUMP to a certain line of code, than it's not for me :) line: 010, 020, 030 for life! You are missing the entire point of the “BASIC” Stamp. And that is the “BASIC” part of it. C/C++ is a very difficult language to learn, especially for us who learn 68K or x86 ASM back in the day over 15-20 years ago. C/C++ is an object oriented language and is extremely difficult while BASIC is simple and for some reason seems to go hand in hand with people that learned line-by-line ASM first and can’t learn C/C++.

If you want a line-by-line approach that is easy to read, easy to understand, and easy to decode, than go with the BASIC Stamp. If however you like heart ache, long hours figuring out what each (,:,.,{ means, and a lack of official support than go with an Arduino

For me, if I can’t use a GOTO, or a JUMP to a certain line of code, than it’s not for me :) line: 010, 020, 030 for life!

]]> By: Peter http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-51115 Peter Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:01:40 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-51115 One of the big benefits of Arduino is that it’s open-source and cross-platform: Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows. One of the big benefits of Arduino is that it’s open-source and cross-platform: Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows.

]]> By: Dr. Tom Berchman, ASP, PhD http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-50205 Dr. Tom Berchman, ASP, PhD Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:00:33 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-50205 I still prefer the Basic Stamp. It's easier to use. I still prefer the Basic Stamp. It’s easier to use.

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]]> By: Dr. Orlando Hernandez http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-50002 Dr. Orlando Hernandez Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:48:21 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-50002 You should look into the C Stamp. It supports full ANSI C, but with a software infrastructure that makes its usage as easy as the basic stamp. It also has 48 pins and many peripherals, including 12 channels of analog2digital conversion. See www.c-stamp.com You should look into the C Stamp. It supports full ANSI C, but with a software infrastructure that makes its usage as easy as the basic stamp. It also has 48 pins and many peripherals, including 12 channels of analog2digital conversion. See http://www.c-stamp.com

]]> By: todbot http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-49968 todbot Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:14:27 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-49968 Hi Josh, Once you're familiar with the equivalents in C on an AVR for BS2 commands, the translation is pretty easy. But just like human translation, sometimes certain idioms will have to be rephrased. This is where Arduino is nice: it has a vocabulary very similar to the Basic Stamp, but also lets you use the lower-level and more powerful C statements if you need to. One way to approach your task is to download the Arduino source code and see what happens when the function "digitalWrite(pin, HIGH)" (the Arduino equivalent of BS2's "HIGH pin") is called. Hi Josh,
Once you’re familiar with the equivalents in C on an AVR for BS2 commands, the translation is pretty easy. But just like human translation, sometimes certain idioms will have to be rephrased. This is where Arduino is nice: it has a vocabulary very similar to the Basic Stamp, but also lets you use the lower-level and more powerful C statements if you need to. One way to approach your task is to download the Arduino source code and see what happens when the function “digitalWrite(pin, HIGH)” (the Arduino equivalent of BS2’s “HIGH pin”) is called.

]]> By: Josh http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-49967 Josh Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:47:16 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-49967 How can you translate a BS2 code in to AVR or C++? I saw that you have the same program in both BS and Arduino. How can you translate those programs? In my case I need to translate the code for a Parallax GPS to be used on an ATMega32. How can you translate a BS2 code in to AVR or C++? I saw that you have the same program in both BS and Arduino. How can you translate those programs? In my case I need to translate the code for a Parallax GPS to be used on an ATMega32.

]]> By: todbot http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-49929 todbot Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:51:48 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-49929 Humandoido, the BS1 is woefully underpowered compared to what the BS2 can do, and the BS2 is similarly underpowered compared to Arduino. There are several open source Arduino-clones for around $19 that are equivalent in functionality to a real Arduino. But I love the BS2, and I use it still occasionally. Humandoido, the BS1 is woefully underpowered compared to what the BS2 can do, and the BS2 is similarly underpowered compared to Arduino. There are several open source Arduino-clones for around $19 that are equivalent in functionality to a real Arduino. But I love the BS2, and I use it still occasionally.

]]> By: humanoido http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/comment-page-2/#comment-49928 humanoido Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:53 +0000 http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/#comment-49928 You can blink LEDs and run many projects using the Basic Stamp board for only $19. There's a ton of free support, for many projects!!! Please check the Parallax web site at www.parallax.com and look for the BS1 board. It's a complete development board with solderless breadboard, comes with the Basic Stamp microprocessor, power regulation, and really it's the ultimate Arduino Killer. hehe... You can blink LEDs and run many projects using the Basic Stamp board for only $19. There’s a ton of free support, for many projects!!! Please check the Parallax web site at http://www.parallax.com and look for the BS1 board. It’s a complete development board with solderless breadboard, comes with the Basic Stamp microprocessor, power regulation, and really it’s the ultimate Arduino Killer. hehe…

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